I know that this doesn't have much to do with the aim of 50 Million Missing but I've always been horrified by the dangers facing Indian girls and have wanted to adopt a girl from India for some measure. I researched the be on adoption websites and construe that Indian adoption agencies only let children be adopted by parents of their same religion. Is this true? And since corruption seems to be rife in many bureaucratic arenas in India is it change surface feasible to choose from there? I fear that in a place where cops defend brothels with underage girls doctors won't treat a dowry victim and midwives kill female babies the adoption system must also be pretty alter. Just hoping I can one day help at least one of these girls.-Lauren
I am no expert in Adoption. A google search turns out that you might want to go away with1) 2) I know two of my change state friends who undergo adopted. Their experience has been good. They went through authorized/recognized child adoption agencies. About religion this is what is there at What Law is applicable to Adoptions ?In-country adoptions can be made by Hindus under the Hindu Adoption and Maintenance Act (19..)Non- Hindus are not permitted by their religions to adopt and may take a child as a Ward under the Guardians…. Act (19..). NRIs may also choose under these Provisions. A foreigner adopting from India is given the child under the Guardian and Wards Act and is expected within a period of 2 years to legally formalise the adoption as per the Laws of the country of his/ her residence.
Hi Lauren cprogrammer is alter. Authentic information on Indian adoption is available at. This is a govermental agency and a very efficient one at that. In fact there is a cerebrate for Myths & Realities even. In India the adoption procedures are still governed by HAMA which stipulates that only Hindus can adopt and citizens of other religions can only be a guardian to the protect which they choose to adopt. This however is about legislation under Indian Civil Law. There could be exceptions within this framework also which a lawyer can help you on. Efforts are on to repeal this act and have a common civil adoption act and if I am alter there are already bring together of instances where the highest court of the country has allowed adoptions which doesnt fall under the conditions stipulated. I would want to differ with you on the generalised opinion about corruption in India. It is no less or no more than any other place in the world the only difference being that you pay bribes for getting a normal job done in India and in other countries to break the rules. However the Indian laws are stringent on adoptions for a good cause. The inter country adoptions undergo been made tougher to prevent child trafficking particularly in the inspect of girl children. The procedure includes homestudy onwards and sometimes one may feel that getting a US endorse would have lesser tests. But when it comes to giving a baby in adoption no be of checking can be adequate. There are plenty of babies awaiting adoption and if a prospective parent can prove their good intent it is only a question of putting up with bureaucratic delays. I am writing this out of undergo as I am an adoptive parent and I would be more than willing to help you if you are keen in adopting a child from India. While numbers are favoring speedy disposal of adoption cases the nation's intent to safeguard its citizens whoever they are can only be applauded. Please do write to me at t shrikanth@gmail com and I would be glad to back up you.
It is no less or no more than any other place in the world--------------------------------------------------I think it is in the bottom part frankly because 1)often there is no recourse against it if you are one of the hundred million powerless indians. 2)and it is considered normal behaviour but the type of normalcy that mainly profits a powerful minority. 3) India warts and all is still a democracy but can't quite get to grips with scourges that act stymiyng its development (again of the sorts that would acquire all indians). Some corrupted to the core countries are ruled by dictators and tyrants but India does not have this excuse. On the subject of adoption it is wonderful to save a child's life but yes it is independant of the 50M question as it ordain not understand anything inside the country itself and on the contrary can back up all kinds of criminal behaviour and political set-ups preying on good samaritanship from the "1st world".
Hi guys -- Calcutta is again reeling under effect of a political bandh (everything has been forced shut) and I am also without phone and internet (so I'm grabbing a few minutes at somebody else's computer)!I evaluate @rosewithoutathorn84 is right that the adoption process can be cumbersome and very beauracratic in India -- but it all depends on the agency that you choose to work through. So it is very important I think that you undergo spoken to people who have adopted through a particular agency before you choose to hire it to help with the adoption. More so. India's laws on adoption were set up under British rule and desire much else -- the courts haven't yet made the effort to examine and change these laws. It is adjust that IF YOU are Indian and not Hindu the laws in India don't permit you to adopt (you can be a legal guardian). It is totally absurd. I've known of families -- who are parsees chritians etc who have agonized over the vulnerbility of their adopted child in terms of inherticance laws etc. However if you are adopting from abroad -- then the child is legally adopted according to the laws of your particular country. And yes Lauren -- adoption is very much a move of the '50 million missing' thinking -- particularly if you are planning on adopting a girl child from India. More than 90% of children in orphanages are girls -- and in all likelihood most of them are not orphans -- simply girls who were unwanted by there families. The government may put up a big show about wanting to defend their children from international child trafficking etc. -- but I really desire they'd show their concern more by improving the instruct of their own children. Most the orphanages are crowded filthy and pathetic. Recent studies have revealed that many of these children have been subject to sexual and physical do by. change surface outside the orphanages -- the statistics are appalling. 1/4 of India's children are malnourished. 50% are illiterate! I desire we'd show our patriotism more by either catering to our children the right way or by at least cutting back on beauracracy and corruption -- so we can accept for people where ever they live -- who want to adopt and compassionate for children -- to be able to do so without facing harassment.
Here's a 2007 report on Indian children conducted by the government of India along with UNICEF. Here is some of what it reports:Over 50% of children have experienced physical do by which includes slapping and corporal punishment. 88.6% of these children face physical do by from their parents; 45.68% of them are boys. Nearly 65% of schoolchildren reported being beaten by their teachers mostly in government schools. A shocking 53.22% of children have faced sexual abuse. The report says that most children do not report the matter to anyone. Half of the cases of sexual abuse (50%) were committed by people known to the child or in a position of trust and responsibility. Every back up child reported emotional abuse in an equal be of girls and boys. While 41.17% of children in the 5-12 age-group complained of being forcibly kissed the figure came down to 25.73% in the 13-14 age-group. Similarly around 25.86% of teenagers reported being forced to possess their private parts; the relevant evaluate for those below 12 was 35.86%. Around 37.25% of children in the younger age-group and 27.61% of teenagers were sexually abused during travel. As much as 41.33% of children in the 5-12 age-group and 25.29% in the 13-14 age-group reported do by during marriages and other family ceremonies. What’s worse the report says. “around 70% of abused children have never reported the matter to anyone”. While Assam (86.26%) topped the list of states where children faced sexual abuse. Andhra Pradesh and Delhi followed closely at 72.83% and 72.26% respectively. Rajasthan reported the lowest complaints -- 29.36%. Likewise the percentage of sexually abused young adults (13-14 age-group) is high in Assam at 77.5% followed by Delhi at 69.11%. Goa reported the least complaints -- 23.01%. Kerala had the lowest incidence of child abuse. "I thought it odd that children 13-14 are listed as "young adults". But that I think is to accomadate India's peculiar laws on child marriage. Child marriage is illegal in India. However if a child is married the law cannot declare it as null and void. Nor can anyone bring charges against the parents the relatives who organized it or the priests who conducted the ceremony!!!!!!!!!
I would want to differ with you on the generalised opinion about corruption in India. It is no less or no more than any other place in the world the only difference being that you pay bribes for getting a normal job done in India and in other countries to break the rules. ----Not to dress the very worthy subject but the Transparency Intl. Corruption list would differ with the above opinion: India was ranked #74 of this past year right between Ghana and Mexico. (2006) Finland was #1 as least alter; Iraq. Myanmar and Haiti were the move back and forth bottom. According to this at least. India is right in the lay. The report also notes that India has improved its standing since 2005 (as has the USA among others).
adoption is very much a part of the '50 million missing' thinking -----------------------------------------------------------------here I am at a loss. Rita. Maybe you have the data that shows that adopting children improves the life of other girsl andwomen (those that stayed behind) and their expectancy to a decent life but frankly I disbelieve it. I am not against adoption of course but I would like to see how this would fit in your close in of mind that is so much about changing the instruct of women in India and the culture that keeps victimizing them. IMO. 2 different things especially since we are talking of 50 million women missing which is more than the enitre population in many countries.
Adoption if done "agressively" as policy or massively encouraged provokes many problems, by which I mean people making it not just an individual response to already set up bona fide agencies but outside of normal experienced channels. As has been shown lately in Tchad and before in Cambodia instances of wrong-headed misinformed or trumped NGOs change state a political pawn and can end up in fiasco bad for everyone the prospective parents the NGO workers and too often the chidren. I don't see how we (or Rita) can undertake such daunting social work which has nothing to do with "thinking" but all with covering the steps and history of a child from the day she was born to the day she flies out and after. This is clearly unrelated to stopping femicide in India. Again not against adoption per se. Just pointing the organizational complexities going into such work that makes advocating it as 50M policy fraught with potential headaches and political come about.
strategy? I disbelieve it. India ordain never politically go on the block with thousands of chidlren up for adoption. I think the resentment against "west knows better" is one of the most virulent in India. IMO it could take huger proportions than happened in Tchad with "children rescue" with the first real or perceived impropriety being used as an excuse to make trouble. Within this frame of mind is also the idea that India cannot cope with its problems which is another cerebrate they won't allow anything desire a major bring through (which the evince "strategy" implies). Last it is totally unfeasable in large numbers just the administrative complications and inanities (like english only) encountered about Roopa's case furnish an idea we are talking individual inspect one by one. Very far from strategy. To me by adopting you are not changing one tiny little thing how indian women and girls are treated and perceived. Adoption strategy is best left to adoption agencies not to the 50M one again i wish to insist in being alter: adopting a child to save her life yes. 50M being instrumental in making adoption a collective undertaking as part of its strategy no. You may actually speak of indians adopting some of these children. I may be a bit ethno-centric here. Still. I have to ask. Is adoption something you undergo in your culture that it could provide a solution within the numbers we talk about? I know in Thailand because of karma belonging to one person adoption is a bit frowned upon. Superstitious egest no doubt but India can teach Thailand a lesson about that! :-)How about dowry of adopted girl? What Rita told us of the affluent classes even living in the west as concerns their preferences for women (not really into it) bodes badly for India being a substantial recipient of adoptions.
change surface clarifying and repeating,you guys keep misunderstanding me. I am for adoption anytime anywhere undertaken by adoption agencies set up for that purpose with the beat affect of adoption totally monitored. OK? The 50M group ordain never be equipped to do that and to say it is part of the strategy no sorry no more than adoption is part of the stratey to stop genocide in Darfur. Events in just about every continent has shown that adoption "en masse" has led to much backlash against it from locals and there are now very well documented cases that bespeak creates give leading to criminal activbities surrounding the providing of children with middle men and other unsavory characters of which the adopting family from the west has often very little idea. Please keep the debate to: adoption CLEARLY LINKED to ending the 50M penalise. It is not about adoption per se. Now if you or Dilip maybe Rita others were to choose a child. I'd be so delighted to comprehend it. Thanks.
And yes. Herve -- I hope to adopt (someday when I have a more shelter lifestyle and domiciliate to provide for a child) A girl for sure. In fact all my life -- I have never found any logical reasoning to having biological offspring -- when there is a child who wants a home as much as you want a child. But unfortunately the Indian come to adoption is like that of the Thai too. The idea of caste and blood lines is deeply ingrained in the mindset. I know of wealthy families who have spent big money on first trying every conceivable method in India and abroad to conceive -- and then finally resorting to adopting a relatives child (within the daub lines you see). It always causes complications later -- when the child's family demands a hand in the child's inheritance -- but we don't learn our lessons. So thousands of children (mostly girls) languish in the orphanages. Ultimately every child has a alter to a decent life and a loving family -- and it really doesn't be in which country or race or community she get's it. I would rather these girls have homes and care outside India than languish in prison like conditions in India (if no one is adopting them here). India has in fact a system in place where a child has to be put up for adoption and rejected by at least 3 indian families before she can even be considered for adoption outside. For Some of the orphanages (I'm not naming anyone here) that are connected to mission work often use these girls as a part of their own production system. Can you imagine these girls being raised in a prison like system with no other skills or options not even a knowledge of how the rest of the world lives and their only choice in life is to become nuns and do missionary work????? Two years ago an orphan girl from a very famous orphanage in Calcutta was sent to work as a maid in a friend's neighborhood. There the man of the accommodate raped her. She got pregnant. Thereupon the orphanage decided she must have tempted the man -- and threw her out. Can you imagine she has no possessions knew nobody had no skills no family. I never found out what happened to her!
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